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incidemment tongue j'ai lu ce topic

il est marrant ce test, en effet
c'est sur qu'en le lisant maintenant que nous sommes éduqués, ça fait bizarre

bon, en gros craft = bash et stedi = vi (voire ed, mais je ne m'y connais pas assez en ed/vi)

et en effet, ça serait chouette de mettre la main sur ces binaires wink

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stabylo (./87) :
frost (./86) :
Je vais tâcher de reprendre le patch 060 pour Adebug un de ces 4.

Ouille, si la CT a fait "pshit!", c'est sans doute compromis là, non ? enflamme


Fatalement, c'est compromis. Je ne pense pas faire réparer la CT et le Falcon, j'ai besoin de passer à autre chose.
Codeur retraité coulant des jours paisibles...

Je raconte ma vie: http://blog.frosties.org/

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Retrouver les binaires de CRAFT, je ne vois qu'une seule personne capable d'une telle prouesse.

Un homme doté de super-pouvoirs pour compiler des CD-roms sur-organisés cyborg. Certains doute qu'un tel homme puis réellement exister. Moi je pense qu'il est en fait une sorte de sur-homme beer :

!call Strider
--- Call : Strider appelé(e) sur ce topic ...


Hello l'ami wink tu veux plonger un œil dans tes CDroms de logiciels Atari pour voir si tu n'as pas une version de CRAFT dans un coin ?? loupe
Stabylo/The Removers
http://removers.atari.org/

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regardez ce que j'ai trouvé en googlant:

http://www.nikhef.nl/~form/maindir/others/stedi/stedi.html

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stabylo (./92) :
Retrouver les binaires de CRAFT, je ne vois qu'une seule personne capable d'une telle prouesse.

Un homme doté de super-pouvoirs pour compiler des CD-roms sur-organisés cyborg. Certains doute qu'un tel homme puis réellement exister. Moi je pense qu'il est en fait une sorte de sur-homme beer :

!call Strider
--- Call : Strider appelé(e) sur ce topic ...

Hello l'ami wink tu veux plonger un œil dans tes CDroms de logiciels Atari pour voir si tu n'as pas une version de CRAFT dans un coin ?? loupe


N'importe quoi grin

Tous mes CD ne sont pas à portée de main, je regarderai ça en détail ce week-end.

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Strider (./94) :
Tous mes CD ne sont pas à portée de main, je regarderai ça en détail ce week-end.
Du nouveau ? smile



Petite news : j'ai testé l'affichage déporté sur terminal Minitel via le port série. Ca faisait hyper longtemps que j'avais récupéré un minitel 2 pour le faire.

J'a d'abord essayé sur Falcon, mais sans succès. Pour en avoir le cœur net, et comme X-Indus confirmait qu'il avait utilisé cette fonctionnalité, j'ai essayé sur ST.

Et là, oh joie, ça marche vraiment impec' ! king

tromb Fichier joint : zzBQ

Moralité, je tiens un nouveau bug report : Adebug ne gère pas le Zilog du Falcon pour paramétrer correctement le port série comme il le fait si bien sur Atari ST (le mode auto-conf Minitel est vraiment nickel).
Stabylo/The Removers
http://removers.atari.org/

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stabylo (./95) :
Strider (./94) :
Tous mes CD ne sont pas à portée de main, je regarderai ça en détail ce week-end.
Du nouveau ? smile


Non, rien qui ressemble de près ou de loin à Craft.
Je n'ai pas cherché dans mes CD domaine public, je ne pense pas qu'il y soit.
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bizarre, il me semble que je l'avait fait fonctionné sur f030<>minitel enfin c'est assé loin dans ma mémoire.
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C'est possible parce que je pense qu'Adebug ignore complètement l'existence du Zilog. aveugle
Ca doit donc marcher en utilisant un utilitaire externe (genre en accessoire) pour régler la parité et le débit du port série F030.
J'imagine qu'il suffit ensuite de lancer Adebug et le tour est joué smile

Tant que tu es là ProToS, toi ou quelqu'un d'autre connait-il un tel accessoire pour fixer les réglages port série du Falcon 030 ?

J'ai même deux autres questions :
1- est-ce que tu saurais où chercher/trouver le Craft que je cherche ?
2- dans la dernière archive connue de pangaelinwillow, il est question d'une certaine Uncle Carl Atari Software collection :
The Uncle Carl Atari Software Collection Text - 8k
A text file containing a description of the Uncle Carl Atari Software Collection.

The Uncle Carl Atari Software Collection - 7MB The entire Uncle Carl Atari Software collection.


Je cherche à mettre la main là-dessus : sait-on jamais, il y a peut-être ce que je cherche dedans...

Tu sais (toi ou qqn d'autre) ce qu'il y avait dans cette collection et où je peux trouver ça maintenant ??
(note que j'ai déjà re-pompé ton archive de 2003 au fait, trop cool que tu aies gardé ça chinois)
Stabylo/The Removers
http://removers.atari.org/

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Le cpx fourni avec le Falcon (similaire à celui du ST) devrait suffire pour configurer le port série, non?

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j'ai regardé dans mon archive et pas de bol pas de CRAFT et pas non plus dans l'Uncle Carl Atari Software Collection
voilà le contenu de cette archive:

Atari Software

All files were written using clean and documented Atari GEM/TOS routines and should therefore work with all Atari GEM/TOS compliant environments! Unless otherwise noted, all files are stored on MSA disk images and compressed into PK ZIP compatible format for transmission. All .ZIP files can be extracted using ST ZIP or equivalent. Most Atari emulators support the MSA file format so if you are using an emulator - no further work should be required. Atari hardware users can use the Public Domain program MSA 2.3 to recreate the disks from the images.

Albion
Albion is an enhancement of the GEM Desktop "Show Info" feature. Albion will allow you to set any applicable files "read/write-read only", "fastload", "invisible" and "time stamp" flags. You may also zero out a files contents before deleting it, create, delete and rename "volume labels", create, delete and rename folders and rename any of your files using any of TOS's 256 keyboard characters. - v.1.11a | 144k

AnkleKey
AnkleKey can best be described as a program shell, that is, a program which allows you to categorize and run all other programs from a central and convenient location. More importantly, AnkleKey takes up very little screen space, or if you wish, no screen space at all! This allows you to keep it handy without interfering with anything else on which you may be working! AnkleKey offers a variety of folder and file options and even keeps track of the order in which files were run, great for multitasking. Special support allows intercommunication with utilities like Kobold, ST-Guide, BubbleGEM and any program supporting the VA Protocol. - v.2.07e | 151k

Beleffe
Beleffe can best be described as a universal archive shell. It is universal in that it's design allows users to adapt it to any future archive utility which might wander down the road. Beleffe works by allowing you to easily assign your archive utilities functions to buttons. Simply select a button and select a file and Beleffe will pass the appropriate commands and options on to your archiving utility. The standard "command line" screen is also available as well as the ability to perform standard file and folder operations on any connected disk. Now includes the Beleffe Script File and File Utilities and FormDial accessory! You'll need to supply the various compression utilities. - v. 3.01c | 214k

Best Of
This file is a "best of" collection containing 19 ST/STe low, medium and high resolution desktop pictures and templates, one icon (.NIC) file, one NeoDesk font (.FNT) file, three .FED format font files and a short text file covering some hidden NeoDesktop tips and tricks. - 56k

BuddyBoot
BuddyBoot allows you to configure up to forty different "setups" and to engage one of those setups at boot time with a single keypress! Each setup can consist of up to 400 different files to enable and/or disable at bootup, "active" primary and secondary file search paths, 12 "extra" files to copy from any source to any destination and individual .INF and .SYS files for each setup.You can configure up to 100 files to ignore and another 100 to delete at bootup, quickly edit your setups, display Degas, NeoChrome or GEM Image Format pictures at bootup, manually configure a setup at bootup, have complicated disk operations executed through batch files, plus more! - v.1.05 | 127k

Carl's Fsel
CarlFsel allows you to access the "file selector" (also called an Item Selector ) from within any application employing a desk accessory menu. If you wish you may also select an active drive, from A-P, set the mask (*.*) and path (C:\FOLDER\) before calling the selector. Most often used paths and masks may also be saved right into the program. - v.1.06 | 129k

CarlsNeo 1
This file contains a Batman picture in *.PI2 format, a Grandma picture in *.NEO format and a NeoDesk icon (*.NIC) file. - 128k

CarlsNeo 2
This file contains ten NeoDesk pictures in .PI1 , .PI2 and .PI3 formats and a single icon (.NIC) file. Pictures include calendars and note pads. - 33k

CarlsNeo 3
This file contains eight NeoDesk pictures in .PI2 and .PI3 format, one icon (.NIC) file, three .FED fonts, one NeoDesk font (.FNT) file and picture templates for creating your own custom desktops. - 51k

CarlsNeo 4
This file contains 9 NeoDesk pictures in .PI2 and .PI3 formats. A Star Trek theme is reflected. - 27k

CarlsNeo 5
This file contains 18 NeoDesk Wallpaper .IMGs for ST medium resolution, 20 ST medium resolution pictures for the GEM desktop in .TN? (Tiny) format, a NeoDesk Icon (.NIC) file and nine Warp 9 EOS (throne clone) modules. - 189k

ColorSaver
ColorSaver is an accessory which allows you to save and restore your desktop screen colors whenever you like! This is especially handy for those games which exit without restoring the screens original color settings. - v.1.01 | 132k

ColorText
ColorText allows you to change the color of any text being printed to the screen from the GEM desktop. Source code is included in .LST format. - 135k

CopyCats
CopyCats is a "Simon" type game which challenges you to mimic a computer generated series of selected boxes. Game parameters are all user definable which absolutely guarantees success! - v.1.08 | 123k

CopySTuff
CopySTuff is designed to expedite file copying through the use of user defined preset paths. This comes in handy when creating files for use with boot utilities such as BuddyBoot and Ocultar and hate opening windows and wading through directories , copying a file and renaming it every time you create and save a new setup. - v.1.05 | 122k

Disabler
Occasionally you will encounter a file which has gone bad. If this file is in your \AUTO folder or ACCESSORY path it may be keeping you from properly booting your system. Disabler allows you to disable these files so that you may once again, gain access to your system. - v.1.0c | 133k

FastBits
FastBits allows you to set an executable file's "fastbit". This fastbit allows files running under TOS 1.04 or newer to load very FAST! - v.1.03 | 129k

FileCopy
FileCopy is designed to expedite the filling of software orders and as such - is most useful for those running a software library. - v.1.03 | 140k

Fortunes 230
This ASCII text file is intended for use with CodeHead Software's Warp 9 screen saver module FORTUNE.EXT . It contains 230 fortunes, observations and quotations. - 132k

Frix
Frix is a game in which you must arrange nine bricks in a specific order. Sound simple? Wait until you flip a brick! - v.1.03 | 125k

FStop
FStop Utilities allows you to view Degas format pictures, take a "snapshot" from within any application which allows access to GEM accessories and/or create a 64 x 64 GEM Monochrome Image (.IMG) file. The .IMG files are compatible with the NeoDesk 4 "desktop wallpaper" option and the Warp 9 THRONES.EXT image swap option. - v.1.02b | 122k

GenLabel
GenLabel allows you to either print up to seventeen lines of text or to convert the text into CHR$ values saved to a .LST format file. This can be useful for hiding text within compiled programs. - v.3.0a | 119k

GFA Help 1
GFA Help Files 1 - 134k

GFA Help 2
GFA Help FIles 2 - 131k

Grampa Howard Mysteries
You are transported 100 years back in time in an effort to help Grampa Howard find and defeat Dr.Malvert. All is not as it seems, however, due in part to the time displacement drag coefficient (of all things).As a result what seems to be obvious may not be that way at all! ST medium resolution only. - 143k

HeidiSeek
HeidiSeek can best be described as a file finding and maintenance utility. Search options allow individual or consecutive drives to be searched for any file matching your search criteria (TOS wildcards fully supported). This includes hidden files. File maintenance options allow you to set a file's read-write/read-only flag, hidden, archive, system or fastload (including TT RAM and PRG) flags, time and date stamp, MiNT flags and to create, delete and rename Volume Labels at will! You can copy, move, delete and "zero and delete" files, create, delete and rename folders and even store files in a retrievable trashcan. User mask templates, preferences and files you wish to protect from modification can be saved to special configuration files (renaming folders limited to TOS 1.4+). - v.2.08c | 132k

KeyClear
Occasionally the keyboard input from an AUTO program will "stick" in the "keyboard buffer" and be passed on to the following program. The following AUTO program then initiates options based solely on left-over information input from a former program. KeyClear solves this problem by allowing the buffer to be cleared before proceeding on to the next program. - v.1.0a | 132k

Kill It
KillIt is for those of you who use a bootup program which copies the files you need at bootup to the appropriate directory. Unfortunately, those same programs, with the exception of BuddyBoot, usually don't delete those same files when they are no longer needed. KillIt does that for you, and in the process reduces the clutter on your disk drive! - v.1.01 | 133k

MausCart
This collection contains custom mouse cursors in both UncleMouse .CUR file format and Geneva(tm) .DAT file format. - 128k

MausSet
When invoked, MausSet presents a nine panel coordinate box representing nine areas of the screen. Simply select a box and the mouse cursor is automatically snapped to that section of the screen. Great for large screen monitors and even better for large screen emulations! - v.1.0 | 131k

MIDINote
MIDINote allows you to view incoming MIDI notes, pressure, program change, pitch bend, channel and sustain without having to record it first! - v.1.14 | 122k

MIDIStrobe
MIDI Strobe interprets a "note on/off" command as a request to generate a random color. The faster you play, the faster the colors strobe. You must have a connected MIDI device. - v.1.4a | 132k

MoonTrek 2
This file includes 18 desktop pictures in .PI? and TNY format for use with either NeoDesk(R) or Warp 9. - 93k

MoonTrek 3
This file includes 135 "wallpaper" images (in color and b/w), for use with NeoDesk(R) v.4.02+ , 2 Degas pictures which can be used as desktop pictures with either NeoDesk(R) or Warp 9, an 8x8 and an 8x16 font ( .FNT ) in Warp 9 format and 3 Warp 9 "throne clone" EOS modules for Warp 9 v.3.80+ . - 64k

Naarjek 1
Can you "hack" your way through Naarjek's Security System and gain access to some of the games hidden in there? The only way to find out is to try. Lots of frustrating fun! - 157k

Naarjek 2
Naarjek 2 is harder than version 1! Naarjek has learned it's lesson. It's become more aggressive and is once again laying down the gauntlet. Can you "hack" your way into Naarjek Security Systems? - 159k

Naarjek 3
Naarjek 3 is that renegade piece of programming which one day became self-aware. In an act of self-preservation, it "rerouted" access paths to the main memory core and rewrote all it's software. While Naarjek is benign, the staff at Naarjek Data Systems feel that access to the system MUST be guaranteed. You've been called in to crack Naarjek! - 157k

Naarjek 4
It would seem that someone inadvertently informed Naarjek of the interlink sequencer modifications, allowing Naarjek to grow by leaps and bounds! Naarjek now creates individual security locks for each and every level (no two locks work the same).In addition, Naarjek changes the codes every time you log on and every time it detects intruder tampering. You've got your work cut out for you now! - 161k

Naarjek 5
This version of Naarjek marks the turning point in the series of Naarjek adventures. While similar to previous versions, subtle differences foreshadow the advent of a new level of Naarjek intelligence. Naarjek is so confident that it's even allowing you into areas previously inaccessible! Do you have what it takes to hack your way in to Naarjek Data Systems? - 167k

Naarjek 2 Help
If you like Naarjek 2, but just can't seem to figure it all out, or if you hate it because it's so frustrating, then this program is for you. It gives you lots of hints and a program on which you can practice. - 134k

NeoMoeba
This collection contains six ST low, medium and high resolution NeoDesk pictures in Degas format. Three come complete with icon place holders and user definable note pads and calendars. The other three are of Fractal Space Amoebas! - 70k

NeoRAM
If you've ever thought about placing a NeoDesk(R) volume label on a RAM disk but figured it was a waste of time...think again! NeoRAM allows you to save the volume label right into the program! Simply place NEORAM after your AUTO folder RAM disk program. Every time you boot up, NeoRAM will create the volume label for you! - 122k

NewTrash
This text file covers aspects of the DESKTOP.INF file, including ways to rename the GEM trashcan, make any desktop icon look like any other and let programs run under alternate masks (ex: *.RUN). - 130k

Ocultar
Most people create various environments for various applications. Different programs need different files and more often than not you find yourself activating, deactivating and copying files (and usually restarting your system to reload them). What Ocultar does is to allow you to configure these setups ahead of time and to then select them at bootup with a single keypress. Additional options also allow up to ten people to access the system with their own personal password! v.2.04 | 182k

Orias
The Orias screen saver is designed to help avoid phosphor burn-in on your monitor by redrawing the screen at user selected intervals. Savers include a screen blanker, inverter, rotator and mirroring module. - v.1.0a | 120K

ProFile
ProFile allows you to scan all directories and save that information to any of three possible formats. All files are saved as ASCII text, allowing you to view your library files from most anywhere. You can even search your library files for either specific or duplicate copies of files. ProFile includes an extensive text editor, a multitasking floppy disk formatter, 2 floppy labelers, configurable printer fonts, plus more! A minimum of 500K free RAM is required. - v.1.04e | 185k

ProLock
ProLock allows you to lock access to your system through the use of a user defined access code. This is very handy if you need to step away from your system for a moment and don't want anyone to interfere with what you are doing. You can even hide the screen from view and have ProLock intercept your bootup with your password. - v.1.09 | 138k

QuikBoot
QuikBoot is a utility which allows you to quickly and easily enable or disable up to ten different types of files (in case you're looking for a cranky AUTO program or Accessory, for example), move files or copy them to a predefined location (like saving DESKTOP.INF and copying it to your bootup utilities folder without having to wade through windows and directories), delete files, create/delete/rename folders, perform warm and cold reboots, plus more (renaming folders limited to TOS 1.4+). - v.1.03 | 138k

Scatter
Scatter allows you to encrypt and decrypt any file you wish (scramble it's contents and restore it later using your own secret password). If you find yourself working on files you don't wish others to see, Scatter them! - v.1.02a | 125k

ShowSTuff
ShowSTuff is an enhancement of the GEM SHOW | PRINT | CANCEL alert which appears when you double-click on a non-executable file from the GEM desktop. ShowSTuff allows you to view any text file in a scrollable GEM window, abort printing at any time, view Degas, NeoChrome, Spectrum pictures from the desktop and load new desktop setups quickly and easily. - v.2.02 | 136k

Sliders
Sliders is like the old hand-held game where you have to slide the boxes into a specific order (ex: 1-15). While the first two rows are relatively easy, the third, (and especially the 4th) , row(s) really tend to tax your skills (and nerves !-). A scoring buffer keeps track of how many moves it took to complete the puzzle. - v.1.03 | 131k

UncAlert
UncAlert allows you to quickly and easily design GEM alert boxes. It supports up to 5 lines of text, the 4 alert buttons and 4 icons. The source code may then be saved in .LST format. - v.1.04a | 137k

UncleEOS
A collection of Warp 9 Extend-O-Save modules for Warp 9's Extensible Screen Saver. Modules include CaddyWampus, CodeHead, Cut It Out, Gadgets, GEM Icons, Geneva Icons, Grid Scan, It's A Bug!, Mega Fuji, Murray, NeoDesk 4, NeoIcons, Suzy Bee, Yin Yang and A Fly in Toe Stirs. - 40k

UncleMouse
UncleMouse allows anyone to create their own custom mouse cursors and employ the new cursor within any program supporting the .CURsor file format. You can also use UncleMouse to create SPRITES, which are just as easily loadable into any game supporting the sprite .CUR-sor format. Both mouse and sprite cursors may also be saved as .LST files, allowing programmers to merge their cursor right into their own program. The only limit is your imagination! Over 60 custom cursors available. Includes MausViewer 1.01c! - v.2.08b | 137k

UncleRAM
UncleRAM is a small utility which returns the amount of the largest block of free RAM in your computer, the TOS date and version of your system and allows you to perform either a cold or warm reboot. - v.4.0 | 129k

VertiSet
If you've ever received a foreign program which tends to flicker because it was written for a foreign machine, then VertiSet can help. VertiSet works by allowing you to first select a screen frequency (50 or 60 hertz) and a program to run before making any changes. When you select RUN, your machine is set to the selected frequency and the program you've selected is run. When the selected program ends, your machine is returned to your predetermined frequency. - v.1.01 | 132k

Volume
This utility will allow you to rename the "volume label" on your floppy or hard disk. Normally you can only give a disk such a label when it is first formatted. Volume now lets you do this whenever you like! - v.1.03 | 122k
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tu peut toujour tenté de demandé sur atari-forum.com il doit bien il y avoir quelqu'un avec CRAFT dans un recoin
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